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	<title>Comments on: Drupal for contact management?</title>
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	<description>web development for growing business</description>
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		<title>By: Guix</title>
		<link>http://figure-w.co.uk/drupal-for-contact-management/comment-page-1/#comment-42199</link>
		<dc:creator>Guix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any updates on this ?

I need to manage a list of contacts which would preferably NOT duplicate my registered users (so thinking more of using users for contacts).

Then I need a GUI to import a tag into a node at a given place in a WYSIWYG and then maybe at the filter or theme layer, display my contacts in a CSS tooltip.

Yup ! A lot of work I guess :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any updates on this ?</p>
<p>I need to manage a list of contacts which would preferably NOT duplicate my registered users (so thinking more of using users for contacts).</p>
<p>Then I need a GUI to import a tag into a node at a given place in a WYSIWYG and then maybe at the filter or theme layer, display my contacts in a CSS tooltip.</p>
<p>Yup ! A lot of work I guess <img src='http://figure-w.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ripwit</title>
		<link>http://figure-w.co.uk/drupal-for-contact-management/comment-page-1/#comment-34619</link>
		<dc:creator>ripwit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m new to Drupal but have a great interest in working on a contract management system, preferably as part of a framework such as Drupal rather than as another stand-alone web application.

My emphasis would be on a very flexible database structure that could handle a large variety of contact information (such as Outlook and the vcard specification) as well as being able to record encounters, relationships, companies (and company relationships), etc. 

I have mapped out several designs and working prototypes for this information. Now what I would like to do is find a way to interface with the data using tools such as Drupal Views.

Since I am &#039;twixt and &#039;tween gainful employ, I may have some time to dive into development (more than 20 years experience).

..roger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m new to Drupal but have a great interest in working on a contract management system, preferably as part of a framework such as Drupal rather than as another stand-alone web application.</p>
<p>My emphasis would be on a very flexible database structure that could handle a large variety of contact information (such as Outlook and the vcard specification) as well as being able to record encounters, relationships, companies (and company relationships), etc. </p>
<p>I have mapped out several designs and working prototypes for this information. Now what I would like to do is find a way to interface with the data using tools such as Drupal Views.</p>
<p>Since I am &#8216;twixt and &#8216;tween gainful employ, I may have some time to dive into development (more than 20 years experience).</p>
<p>..roger</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://figure-w.co.uk/drupal-for-contact-management/comment-page-1/#comment-30066</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfred Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike, I&#039;m in much the same boat as you in that I&#039;ve not got the time to develop it myself, sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike, I&#8217;m in much the same boat as you in that I&#8217;ve not got the time to develop it myself, sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike C</title>
		<link>http://figure-w.co.uk/drupal-for-contact-management/comment-page-1/#comment-30065</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alfred, I also have a Drupal web development business and would love to have a Drupal based contact manager for myself and my customers.  I&#039;ve been thinking of developing one as my first Drupal module, but havent the time and don&#039;t want to reinvent the wheel.  Views+CCK, which I use for basic contact details, aren&#039;t really enough to get more than about 1/4 of what even a very basic contacts system would need.  Have you got a more detailed spec yet, or have you found any modules that give you some of what you&#039;re looking for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alfred, I also have a Drupal web development business and would love to have a Drupal based contact manager for myself and my customers.  I&#8217;ve been thinking of developing one as my first Drupal module, but havent the time and don&#8217;t want to reinvent the wheel.  Views+CCK, which I use for basic contact details, aren&#8217;t really enough to get more than about 1/4 of what even a very basic contacts system would need.  Have you got a more detailed spec yet, or have you found any modules that give you some of what you&#8217;re looking for?</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Lobo</title>
		<link>http://figure-w.co.uk/drupal-for-contact-management/comment-page-1/#comment-21457</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Lobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can you elaboarate on the &quot;ways you tried to extend it and it became very hard&quot;. Would be good feedback for us to try to improve so extensions become a bit easier

the 2.1 version has even more hooks than 2.0, so we definitely are moving down the hook path quite aggresively

lobo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can you elaboarate on the &#8220;ways you tried to extend it and it became very hard&#8221;. Would be good feedback for us to try to improve so extensions become a bit easier</p>
<p>the 2.1 version has even more hooks than 2.0, so we definitely are moving down the hook path quite aggresively</p>
<p>lobo</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://figure-w.co.uk/drupal-for-contact-management/comment-page-1/#comment-17189</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfred Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, Allan. My criticism of CiviCRM is largely based on how difficult it is to customise as a developer: I did an evaluation of it for a client and in those areas where it fitted their needs it was great, but as soon as I tried to extend it in ways not envisaged by the developers it became very hard work. Unlike Drupal it has very few &#039;hooks&#039; for new functionality.

From what I know of SugarCRM it&#039;s also rather large and unwieldy, but that&#039;s just anecdotal. It&#039;s not truly open source either, is it?

I shall be developing some sort of contact management system in short order and if it seems like it might be of wider use I&#039;ll make it available to the community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Allan. My criticism of CiviCRM is largely based on how difficult it is to customise as a developer: I did an evaluation of it for a client and in those areas where it fitted their needs it was great, but as soon as I tried to extend it in ways not envisaged by the developers it became very hard work. Unlike Drupal it has very few &#8216;hooks&#8217; for new functionality.</p>
<p>From what I know of SugarCRM it&#8217;s also rather large and unwieldy, but that&#8217;s just anecdotal. It&#8217;s not truly open source either, is it?</p>
<p>I shall be developing some sort of contact management system in short order and if it seems like it might be of wider use I&#8217;ll make it available to the community.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan McDonald</title>
		<link>http://figure-w.co.uk/drupal-for-contact-management/comment-page-1/#comment-17188</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alfred, I agree that your idea has great merit. There is enormous value in our business contacts that is often overlooked and not well used in business. Your &quot;wish list&quot; would assist business to realise that value.

I&#039;ve been through the  list of contrib modules and haven&#039;t found anything that would do this &quot;out of the box&quot;. Correct, CCK could accomplish some of this, perhaps along with Views.

I&#039;m also interested in your thoughts about CiviCRM. I propose testing CiviCRM offline when the next version is released later this year. It will be interesting to see if I come to similar conclusions.

There is another open source product worth mentioning here. I assume you are aware of SugarCRM, found at http://www.sugarcrm.com but there appears to be only limited interfacing to Drupal through the SugarForm contrib module for Drupal 5.

Unfortunately I&#039;m not a coder so I can&#039;t help with the project but I would be very interested in using the functionality in your &quot;wish list&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alfred, I agree that your idea has great merit. There is enormous value in our business contacts that is often overlooked and not well used in business. Your &#8220;wish list&#8221; would assist business to realise that value.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been through the  list of contrib modules and haven&#8217;t found anything that would do this &#8220;out of the box&#8221;. Correct, CCK could accomplish some of this, perhaps along with Views.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also interested in your thoughts about CiviCRM. I propose testing CiviCRM offline when the next version is released later this year. It will be interesting to see if I come to similar conclusions.</p>
<p>There is another open source product worth mentioning here. I assume you are aware of SugarCRM, found at <a href="http://www.sugarcrm.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sugarcrm.com</a> but there appears to be only limited interfacing to Drupal through the SugarForm contrib module for Drupal 5.</p>
<p>Unfortunately I&#8217;m not a coder so I can&#8217;t help with the project but I would be very interested in using the functionality in your &#8220;wish list&#8221;.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Drupal for contact management?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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